RE: repurposing Planet Ubuntu
Ok, there has been a lot of noise (again) about what should be in ubuntu planet, last time i wasn’t a member so i didn’t comment on the topic, but being that now i am here are my thoughts on the topic:
- Planet ubuntu is and should be a window to the community: Some people read planet to be up to date on the technical news, but that’s what changelog stands for, and planet ubuntu (or our blogs) aren’t actually changelogs. So the idea of limiting the what should be posted or not doesn’t seem really fair to me
- Ubuntu member represent the ubuntu community: All of us, being part of this community, an being officially recognized as members of it, gives us the representation of this community and for the people we are not just a lot of single people, we are the ubuntu community as a whole, so everything you said is taken as if it comes from the community especially if it is on one of the community’s communication channel, like mailing lists or planet. So we need to thing 3 times after post something on them since it won’t be treated as our own and personal opinion, but as the community one.
- Respects saved Respects: Before doing something it will be a good idea to think “If someone do this to me, would i like it?” If not, please don’t, everyone of us have different opinions on different topic, but it doesn’t give us the right to challenge people and be unrespectful. And said that you can say whatever you want, just need to find the right way to do it and express your opinion, is better to say “i don’t think so, i think is better like this” than saying “What were you thinking? that’s wrong!”
I don’t want to create more discussion on it, i think planet ubuntu is fine as it is now, and nothing need to be changed but the attitude of ourselves.
nxvl @ July 23, 2008
As an avid reader of Planet Ubuntu and an avid user of Ubuntu OS, I can say that I am fine with what is being posted today. I think that if the community has a major issue, it should be allowed to be addressed on Planet.
I agree that any issues or disagreements should be done in a civilized manner. No one likes a foul-fingered monkey.
What I don’t like is that “I woke up this morning and had to take a wizz….”. There does not seem to be much of that today, but there were a few in the past. I think personal life stuff should be kept on the personal blog and not on Planet.
I agree with you that Planet Ubuntu is fine the way it is now.
Personally, I feel that if you sell advertising (google ads) or generate any revenue from your blog your opinion on this matter should be considered bias. Revenue in any form constitutes a major conflict of interest because volatile posts generally generate traffic.
“… but it doesn’t give us the right to challenge people and be unrespectful. …”
In fact this is the very thing Stephan is standing up against. Over and over he makes posts, that are innocuous and someone complains. There is the possibility any moment with anything you do that someone will *take* offense. It seems so often on these religious blogs we call Ubuntu, that these folks taking offense, are not satisfied to move on. Rather, they want to tell us what we can and cannot do and say.
Yet, goddess forbid that we durst question their authority, or ever inform them of any offense that we’ve taken at what they have said.
“Meh”
Stephen has pissed people off before, he’ll do it again. He doesn’t listen to people when they say that they are offended. In fact he appears to relish it, even goading people on his site. He has stormed off (in a non-CoC compliant fashion) from the community once in the past and quietly came back. Fabian also messed up bigtime by posting company secrets on planet ubuntu.
Neither party in this has the right to accuse the other in the way they have. They should both “STFU” and get on with something creative and productive.
This is all just a monumental waste of everyones time.
Well, yes rather than being part of the discussion i’m just making an opinion on what should be posted, i don’t think that noone is able to say “you can’t post that” but anyone of us should know how not to be offensive and when we are directly attacking someone.
Please he didn’t “storm” off. He reached a point where he was sick of the anti-freedom rantings of a lunatic. He isn’t the only one that has had to confront these religious nuts in the ubuntu [so-called] community. The things that this nut and others have sent me because I am not a straight monogamous man are simply disgusting. And their anti-woman agenda is nothing short of repulsive. Any woman that doesn’t meet their idea of a “properly dressed” “lady” is fair fodder for derogatory name calling.
Thankfully he is back and he stands up for those of us that have had to face these sickening prejudices. I’ve been a member of a number of religious groups. Several of them extreme high control groups. And yet, I’ve never experienced the degrees of control sought by these Ubuntu “authorities”. And they do it in the so called name of freedom. It’s a load of nonsense. If someone is offended because he typed the word climax, in reference to an EVENT, and because they viewed it as sexual, that’s not HIS fault, it is their own sad perversions.
But then that is the issue isn’t it, chaste men and women do not see offense in everything others say, because they dont have to immediately imagine something offensive. This stuff belongs in a cult, not in a technical resource.
It’s respects save respects, not saved. Still I don’t know if that makes sense in English.
Asking for a “planet” feed to subscribers might be a good solution, asking them to not post absolutely everything they write to planet ubuntu.
Diego Escalante Urrelo,
The problem would still have occurred because the posts called into question quite often are about Ubuntu.
This is besides the fact that the planet is stated explicitly as being about the lives of Ubuntu users.
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